說得好。
Lunyeah - 港大退聯之「共產黨最高興」論
https://thestandnews.com/politics/%E6%B8%AF%E5%A4%A7%E9%80%80%E8%81%AF%E4%B9%8B-%E5%85%B1%E7%94%A2%E9%BB%A8%E6%9C%80%E9%AB%98%E8%88%88-%E8%AB%96/
由幾時開始，我地做人做事的準則係要睇「共產黨高唔高興」？大家要含淚投票俾泛民！否則「共產黨最高興」；大家唔好退出學聯！否則「共產黨最高興」；大家唔好批評左膠！否則「共產黨最高興」；大家唔好衝擊升國旗！否則「共產黨最高興」......
咁點解當日又要勸大家從佔領區撤離？唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？點解民主黨要入中聯辦密室談判？唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？點解要反對本土派的「光復行動」？
唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？點解左膠孔令瑜當日要向毛范譚三個溫和本土派開記招下戰書？唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？點解左膠要支持中港融合？唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？點解天主教正義和平委員會要「為中港融合祈禱」？唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？點解孔令瑜要盲撐縱火犯施君龍？唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？點解左膠要圍插陶傑？唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？
Save Hong Kong from China
(from 麥兜噹噹伴我心)
Saturday, 14 February 2015
港大通過退聯 左膠齊賴內地生 屈本土派是共諜
林兆彬 (前學聯左膠)
http://www.facebook.com/orochi.ben.lam/posts/10153030598025199
有二千五百幾人投票支持港大退出學聯，當中包括兩班人：認為學聯太激的藍絲/內地生 + 認為學聯唔夠「勇武」唔夠「本土」既人。
...
少左近一萬五千人的力量，邊個最開心我唔知，但香港政府、教育局一定在偷笑。
BTW港大的國殤之柱，太古橋上的六四標語，或許在不久的將來會被推倒吧？
蕭若元 最新蕭析：我對退聯公投的失算
http://newsdb.memehk.com/posts/%E6%88%91%E5%B0%8D%E9%80%80%E8%81%AF%E5%85%AC%E6%8A%95%E7%9A%84%E5%A4%B1%E7%AE%97#sthash.cDjGYeNm.dpuf
退聯竟然成功，我當然非常震驚... 我未有察覺支持退聯的其實是三種票的聯合。我一直只看著那些想拆台的人的票有多少，如果有四百多人聯署，我認為實際最多只有六、七百人，是非大敗不可。但實際上不是，它是有三種票。除了想拆台的人，還有港大學生裏的藍絲帶，大概佔學生的1成多。還有中央的組織票。最近大公、文匯天天吹雞，我相信共產黨已用盡他所有的票，約近一千票。
用偽裝的藉口，以中立的退聯，將3方面的票加了起來，就是總共的票，再加上不少港大學生對政治冷感，最後得出這個結果。如果冷靜一點是應該計算得到的。我竟然完全盲目，看不到這個現實，看不到中共的組織票，和對運動感到憤努的真心藍絲帶的票，我只能說自己是完全盲目，是可笑的。
就當 NDS 真的全都支持退聯好了，要不是你們左膠支持中共殖民香港，又那來這許多 NDS 呢；早知今日，何必當初？況且你現在要歧視大陸人嗎？根據「大陸也有好人論」，大陸也有很多人支持民主甚麼的，你純粹因為他們的族群身份便推測他們都是共匪，是歧視！難道你們想提出減少大陸生來港或禁止他們投票？那好得很，歡迎加入法西斯大家庭...
至於共產黨是否最開心我不知道，只是佩服你們對共產黨心情起伏瞭如指掌，不是「共產黨最開心」就是「不要激怒共產黨」。事情是對就做，是錯就不應做，是對是錯和共匪心情沒有關係。整天揣摩上意，和土共有何分別？
我倒是相當高興的，雖不至於熱烈支持，也是樂觀其成。學聯在雨傘革命的錯誤都可原諒；更大的問題是他們和殖民主派如民陣等千絲萬縷的關係。雨傘革命中途，他們還有空去爭取大陸人來港「家庭團聚」呢。大中華膠不除，香港必冇得救。
http://www.facebook.com/orochi.ben.lam/posts/10153030598025199
有二千五百幾人投票支持港大退出學聯，當中包括兩班人：認為學聯太激的藍絲/內地生 + 認為學聯唔夠「勇武」唔夠「本土」既人。
...
少左近一萬五千人的力量，邊個最開心我唔知，但香港政府、教育局一定在偷笑。
BTW港大的國殤之柱，太古橋上的六四標語，或許在不久的將來會被推倒吧？
蕭若元 最新蕭析：我對退聯公投的失算
http://newsdb.memehk.com/posts/%E6%88%91%E5%B0%8D%E9%80%80%E8%81%AF%E5%85%AC%E6%8A%95%E7%9A%84%E5%A4%B1%E7%AE%97#sthash.cDjGYeNm.dpuf
退聯竟然成功，我當然非常震驚... 我未有察覺支持退聯的其實是三種票的聯合。我一直只看著那些想拆台的人的票有多少，如果有四百多人聯署，我認為實際最多只有六、七百人，是非大敗不可。但實際上不是，它是有三種票。除了想拆台的人，還有港大學生裏的藍絲帶，大概佔學生的1成多。還有中央的組織票。最近大公、文匯天天吹雞，我相信共產黨已用盡他所有的票，約近一千票。
用偽裝的藉口，以中立的退聯，將3方面的票加了起來，就是總共的票，再加上不少港大學生對政治冷感，最後得出這個結果。如果冷靜一點是應該計算得到的。我竟然完全盲目，看不到這個現實，看不到中共的組織票，和對運動感到憤努的真心藍絲帶的票，我只能說自己是完全盲目，是可笑的。
就當 NDS 真的全都支持退聯好了，要不是你們左膠支持中共殖民香港，又那來這許多 NDS 呢；早知今日，何必當初？況且你現在要歧視大陸人嗎？根據「大陸也有好人論」，大陸也有很多人支持民主甚麼的，你純粹因為他們的族群身份便推測他們都是共匪，是歧視！難道你們想提出減少大陸生來港或禁止他們投票？那好得很，歡迎加入法西斯大家庭...
至於共產黨是否最開心我不知道，只是佩服你們對共產黨心情起伏瞭如指掌，不是「共產黨最開心」就是「不要激怒共產黨」。事情是對就做，是錯就不應做，是對是錯和共匪心情沒有關係。整天揣摩上意，和土共有何分別？
我倒是相當高興的，雖不至於熱烈支持，也是樂觀其成。學聯在雨傘革命的錯誤都可原諒；更大的問題是他們和殖民主派如民陣等千絲萬縷的關係。雨傘革命中途，他們還有空去爭取大陸人來港「家庭團聚」呢。大中華膠不除，香港必冇得救。
Wednesday, 21 January 2015
陶傑：屠殺爭議
但是，當看熱鬧的中國人也認為法國漫畫家該殺，西方霸權踐踏了伊斯蘭人民的尊嚴；你不妨反問這位中國人：在「查理周報」屠殺案之後三天，新疆一個縣城，又發生維吾爾族暴力襲警事件，維族人民也開始展開暴力，在北京玩人肉汽車炸彈，炸死中國平民了。但中國政府卻在新疆禁男人蓄鬍子，禁女人戴面紗，此等「漢文霸權」措施，必會激起更大的暴力反抗，那麼中國人應不應該停止刺激維吾爾族人民，而自我反省呢？
蘋果日報 黃金冒險號 2015-01-13
Sunday, 11 January 2015
部分香港年青人仇視內地 有必要去殖民化？
饒戈平：部分香港年青人仇視內地 有必要去殖民化
早排李慧琼上電視，也是開口閉口殖民地教育這個那個的。年青人抗拒、仇視大陸，不是因為殖民地教育，而是因為你共產黨殺人放火，無惡不作，抗拒和仇視是年青人有良知的正常表現。況且殖民地教育你們不也是大鑼大鼓地搞麼，不過是中共殖民教育...
早排李慧琼上電視，也是開口閉口殖民地教育這個那個的。年青人抗拒、仇視大陸，不是因為殖民地教育，而是因為你共產黨殺人放火，無惡不作，抗拒和仇視是年青人有良知的正常表現。況且殖民地教育你們不也是大鑼大鼓地搞麼，不過是中共殖民教育...
Wednesday, 10 December 2014
怎樣譯左膠
古德明 apple daily 20141210:
(先旨聲明，我是十分尊敬古德明老師的。雖然他是大中華膠，但猛批左膠大中華膠的，包括本人，絕大部份幾年前甚至幾個月前自己都是大中華膠，像古德明老師這種鑽研中文幾十年的人，自不能一朝一夕覺醒。其實他對本土派的批評已不算猛烈。)
你問一個「大中華膠」這兩個詞，自然不會有甚麼好事發生。其實大中華膠意思很清晰，就是把「大家都是中國人」這個價值觀置於其他一切之上的人。至於「左膠」確是含糊，一來你要明白「膠」這個字在高登的「真心膠」含意(很多左膠是真心相信那些理念的，不是個個都是共諜)；二來左膠狹義來說只是指「雙輝一葉」那種小資產階級卻對左翼思想有浪漫幻想的社運青年，但最廣義卻包括整個泛民和理非體系，跟本不算左翼。所以譯作 leftard 似乎太過惡毒； leftist 卻又有那個不是 unrealistic 或 utopian 的？
我也沒好氣，直譯 left plastic 算了。
What is left plastic?
This is a term in Hong Kong politics that was invented several years ago and gaining more public exposure recently. It is very difficult to give a precise translation as its meaning even in Chinese is somewhat ambiguous. It is a negative term. In a narrow sense, it refers to those (usually young) people participating in pro-democratic political movements who have a romanticized fantasy towards left wing philosophy (though, to be fair, all left wing philosophies are romantic fantasies...) and smuggle their left wing agenda into every political movement. In the context of HK politics, they, for example, portray mainland Chinese migrants as victims and believe local HK people have the "original sin" of being brought up in a capitalist world. (Curiously enough, they themselves often have a middle-class background and are beneficiaries of capitalism...) Their political agenda therefore coincides with the Chinese government's colonial policy. They (unlike some of their Western counterparts) are also very obsessed with non-violent, "alternative" way of protests: their protests involve demonstrating that "the people are weak" and beg for mercy from those in power.
A related term is "Greater Chinese plastic" which refers to those who believe that the principle "we (HK people and mainland Chinese) are all Chinese" must be held above everything else. For example this means we should allow unlimited immigration since if we are all Chinese it is not even immigration in the first place. The two groups of plastics have dominated the pro-democratic camp of HK politics for 30 years, effectively restraining all protests to manageable and acceptable levels.
"Plastic" originates on-line and sounds similar to (one of the many words that mean) "penis" in Cantonese, and this is where its derogatory meaning come from. However, "plastic" carries a more light-hearted sense, and means someone or something unbelievably stupid but also funny. For example, "true-hearted plastic" refers to someone, in an almost affectionate way, who is naive, or unaware of something that everyone else knows. In this context left plastic means those who are unaware of, or unwilling to believe, the catastrophic consequences of applying their left-wing ideology to HK.
問：「左膠」應譯做unrealistic leftist（不現實的左派分子）還是utopian leftist（只講理想的左派分子）？
答：「左膠」、「大中華膠」之類香港新詞，確實意思是什麼，我不清楚，只是直覺上認為那「膠」是「駵（陽具）」的諧音，而「左膠」等無非廣東駡人話「戇駵」的下流仿造詞。當然，我沒有考究，反正我不會用這樣的詞語。
讀者示下的兩個譯法，意思都很清楚，和「左膠」這類意思模糊的詈駡語不同，因此也不大貼切。也許，「左膠」和英文新詞leftard差不多，英文常用 -ard指「人」，帶貶義，原是hard的縮畧，例如bastard（雜種）、coward（膽小鬼）、dotard（昏憒的老頭）、 drunkard（酒鬼）、dullard（笨蛋）、laggard（行動緩慢者）等。He is better described as a leftard than as a socialist即「他與其說是個社會主義者，不如說是個左鳥」。
(先旨聲明，我是十分尊敬古德明老師的。雖然他是大中華膠，但猛批左膠大中華膠的，包括本人，絕大部份幾年前甚至幾個月前自己都是大中華膠，像古德明老師這種鑽研中文幾十年的人，自不能一朝一夕覺醒。其實他對本土派的批評已不算猛烈。)
你問一個「大中華膠」這兩個詞，自然不會有甚麼好事發生。其實大中華膠意思很清晰，就是把「大家都是中國人」這個價值觀置於其他一切之上的人。至於「左膠」確是含糊，一來你要明白「膠」這個字在高登的「真心膠」含意(很多左膠是真心相信那些理念的，不是個個都是共諜)；二來左膠狹義來說只是指「雙輝一葉」那種小資產階級卻對左翼思想有浪漫幻想的社運青年，但最廣義卻包括整個泛民和理非體系，跟本不算左翼。所以譯作 leftard 似乎太過惡毒； leftist 卻又有那個不是 unrealistic 或 utopian 的？
我也沒好氣，直譯 left plastic 算了。
What is left plastic?
This is a term in Hong Kong politics that was invented several years ago and gaining more public exposure recently. It is very difficult to give a precise translation as its meaning even in Chinese is somewhat ambiguous. It is a negative term. In a narrow sense, it refers to those (usually young) people participating in pro-democratic political movements who have a romanticized fantasy towards left wing philosophy (though, to be fair, all left wing philosophies are romantic fantasies...) and smuggle their left wing agenda into every political movement. In the context of HK politics, they, for example, portray mainland Chinese migrants as victims and believe local HK people have the "original sin" of being brought up in a capitalist world. (Curiously enough, they themselves often have a middle-class background and are beneficiaries of capitalism...) Their political agenda therefore coincides with the Chinese government's colonial policy. They (unlike some of their Western counterparts) are also very obsessed with non-violent, "alternative" way of protests: their protests involve demonstrating that "the people are weak" and beg for mercy from those in power.
A related term is "Greater Chinese plastic" which refers to those who believe that the principle "we (HK people and mainland Chinese) are all Chinese" must be held above everything else. For example this means we should allow unlimited immigration since if we are all Chinese it is not even immigration in the first place. The two groups of plastics have dominated the pro-democratic camp of HK politics for 30 years, effectively restraining all protests to manageable and acceptable levels.
"Plastic" originates on-line and sounds similar to (one of the many words that mean) "penis" in Cantonese, and this is where its derogatory meaning come from. However, "plastic" carries a more light-hearted sense, and means someone or something unbelievably stupid but also funny. For example, "true-hearted plastic" refers to someone, in an almost affectionate way, who is naive, or unaware of something that everyone else knows. In this context left plastic means those who are unaware of, or unwilling to believe, the catastrophic consequences of applying their left-wing ideology to HK.
Thursday, 13 November 2014
德開歐盟先例 拒向新移民派福利
很法西斯，左膠快來譴責...
歐洲法院前日（周二）作出重要裁決，裁定德國政府有權拒絕向從未在當地工作過的歐盟新移民，發放福利津貼。...
http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/international/art/20141113/18933200
Friday, 31 October 2014
BBC accused of inaccurate report claiming HK protestors received training
The BBC is accused of an inaccurate report which claimed the protestors in Hong Kong received training by participants of Oslo Freedom Forum:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29708917
https://www.change.org/p/the-bbc-should-immediately-withdraw-its-inaccurate-report-titled-hong-kong-protests-activists-share-secrets-at-oslo-freedom-forum-oct-21
The Western media haven't got a clue what is happening in Hong Kong. Let me offer some help...
The Occupy Central with Love and Peace (OCLP), which Benny Tai is one of the three mainly responsible, has no control over the current occupation in HK, since the beginning and at any point throughout. The occupation was started as a spontaneous and self-organized reaction to the police's use of teargas against student protests on Sept 28. The current occupation is not in any shape or form close to what OCLP organizers had in mind (more on this below), and many occupiers are not supporters of any organizations who claim to be leading or organizing this, OCLP included. Hence while it might be true that OCLP or whoever might have received training or trained some would-be participants, it is indeed untrue to claim that the current protestors (who are mainly student supporters, not OCLP supporters) are trained.
The Western media take the simplistic view that there are the pro-Beijing forces, and there are the pro-democracy parties, in HK. What you do not know is that people in HK are getting increasingly frustrated by the "mainstream" pro-democracy political parties and organisations, of which OCLP is one. For the last 30 years these mainstream parties controlled and dominated how the pro-democracy camp think and act. Most importantly they hold a "moderate" view and emphasize peaceful actions and even "love", against a brutal dictatorial regime (China). Their protests are in name only; they never really wanted their protests to have any real effect, for any revolutionary change may actually jeopardize their own established status. What they want is the occupation of moral high ground without having to make any real sacrifice.
Going back to OCLP, their initial plan was for protestors to simply sit down and wait for the police to arrest them, and they would not resist arrest or defend themselves when the police do so. In fact they did give ridiculous "training" to would-be participants on "how to behave peacefully and do not resist arrest" (yes, you read it correctly). They have been talking about this occupation since early 2013 but have avoided and postponed doing it as much as they could. In fact, if not for that fact that the students (Joshua Wong and co.) broke into a government-barricaded public square outside the government HQ on Sept 26 (a "violent" action that OCLP no doubt would not have approved of, had they knew it in advance), none of this would have happened - we would still be "talking" about occupying Central. In fact Central is still never occupied (the occupied areas are Admiralty, Mong Kok and Causeway Bay.) And once it started, the OCLP has tried to persuade the occupiers to disband on numerous occasions (almost on a daily basis). That's why the current occupiers would not listen to OCLP.
I think the BBC may be a bit bemused by their (OCLP's) reaction to the report; the BBC might think they are praising them when their report claimed that they are trained by those in the Oslo Forum. But OCLP and their kind of "moderate", mainstream parties are enslaved by the idea of "it is wrong to organize a revolution and overthrow the government", and "it is even more wrong to have foreign involvement in such activities". They have been actively denying that this is the "Umbrella Revolution", and renamed it as "Umbrella Movement". This is another reason why the more "aggressive" pro-democracy protestors despise the OCLP and the like.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29708917
https://www.change.org/p/the-bbc-should-immediately-withdraw-its-inaccurate-report-titled-hong-kong-protests-activists-share-secrets-at-oslo-freedom-forum-oct-21
The Western media haven't got a clue what is happening in Hong Kong. Let me offer some help...
The Occupy Central with Love and Peace (OCLP), which Benny Tai is one of the three mainly responsible, has no control over the current occupation in HK, since the beginning and at any point throughout. The occupation was started as a spontaneous and self-organized reaction to the police's use of teargas against student protests on Sept 28. The current occupation is not in any shape or form close to what OCLP organizers had in mind (more on this below), and many occupiers are not supporters of any organizations who claim to be leading or organizing this, OCLP included. Hence while it might be true that OCLP or whoever might have received training or trained some would-be participants, it is indeed untrue to claim that the current protestors (who are mainly student supporters, not OCLP supporters) are trained.
The Western media take the simplistic view that there are the pro-Beijing forces, and there are the pro-democracy parties, in HK. What you do not know is that people in HK are getting increasingly frustrated by the "mainstream" pro-democracy political parties and organisations, of which OCLP is one. For the last 30 years these mainstream parties controlled and dominated how the pro-democracy camp think and act. Most importantly they hold a "moderate" view and emphasize peaceful actions and even "love", against a brutal dictatorial regime (China). Their protests are in name only; they never really wanted their protests to have any real effect, for any revolutionary change may actually jeopardize their own established status. What they want is the occupation of moral high ground without having to make any real sacrifice.
Going back to OCLP, their initial plan was for protestors to simply sit down and wait for the police to arrest them, and they would not resist arrest or defend themselves when the police do so. In fact they did give ridiculous "training" to would-be participants on "how to behave peacefully and do not resist arrest" (yes, you read it correctly). They have been talking about this occupation since early 2013 but have avoided and postponed doing it as much as they could. In fact, if not for that fact that the students (Joshua Wong and co.) broke into a government-barricaded public square outside the government HQ on Sept 26 (a "violent" action that OCLP no doubt would not have approved of, had they knew it in advance), none of this would have happened - we would still be "talking" about occupying Central. In fact Central is still never occupied (the occupied areas are Admiralty, Mong Kok and Causeway Bay.) And once it started, the OCLP has tried to persuade the occupiers to disband on numerous occasions (almost on a daily basis). That's why the current occupiers would not listen to OCLP.
I think the BBC may be a bit bemused by their (OCLP's) reaction to the report; the BBC might think they are praising them when their report claimed that they are trained by those in the Oslo Forum. But OCLP and their kind of "moderate", mainstream parties are enslaved by the idea of "it is wrong to organize a revolution and overthrow the government", and "it is even more wrong to have foreign involvement in such activities". They have been actively denying that this is the "Umbrella Revolution", and renamed it as "Umbrella Movement". This is another reason why the more "aggressive" pro-democracy protestors despise the OCLP and the like.
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