Nauseating

China's state visit to UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34586679

Nauseating. That's what I have to say. A country, in the face of money, sell its dignity to foreign power. If David Cameron and George Osborne want to lick the Chinese ar$eholes it is perfectly fine, just don't drag the rest of us along. And the Queen. Leave the Queen alone!


一代帝國，於政客把持下，淪落至此。朝野上下，人人舔共，中人欲嘔。

Hong Kong 'forced shopping' attack sees tourist killed

Hong Kong 'forced shopping' attack sees tourist killed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34584235

The killed is mainland Chinese. The killer is mainland Chinese. The tour group "leader" is mainland Chinese. The tour company is a mainland Chinese company. The shop where forced shopping took place was also opened by mainland Chinese. And something like this is happening all the time. If mainland Chinese want to fight among themselves that's perfectly fine, but they always wreck Hong Kong's reputation by doing it in Hong Kong. And also claim to be Hongkongers when they are not (they are the so-called "new" Hongkongers.)

In China the media is of course also being deliberately misleading, portraying this as an Hongkonger attack on Chinese and is related to the hatred between the two groups. Which is fine by me actually. If anything, the real problem is that not enough HK people have woken up.

And in addition to "push up prices" and so on, can you care to mention that they are the faces of Chinese colonisation and are here to "exercise their sovereignty" - the real reason why we must resist them?

"Why don't you leave the country?"

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/great-british-bake-off-final-if-you-think-the-gbbo-final-is-too-politically-correct-then-why-dont-a6684401.html

Apparently it is not only the left plastics in Hong Kong who like to invoke this question. If shouting "Go back to where you come from" to immigrants is far right extremism, then what about asking people to leave their own country because they don't agree with you? Far-left fascism??

UK's Chinese-made nuclear plant, and George Osborne's face

UK guarantees £2bn nuclear plant deal as China investment announced

"... China was expected to lead the construction of a Beijing-designed nuclear station at the Essex site."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-34306997


Perhaps you have not heard the famous quote from Jackie Chan that "everything made in China will explode". Not to mention handing over such sensitive, key to national security, projects to China. But then the West was peaceful for too long. UK relies on France for aircraft carriers, and France even make warships for Russia. That's how ridiculous things are at the moment.

I always feel there is something wrong about George Osborne's face. It is like he is wearing a human skin face mask. When he speaks, the facial muscles just don't feel right. His eyes suggest he does not believe in what he says, or he may not even know what he is saying. Though such a face is the perfect one to capture the evil behind modern politicians - they betray their own country, sell it to foreign powers for the own personal benefit, and only for the short term. They don't even care that their children (or even themselves should they live long enough) will suffer from a radioactive disaster.

"Compassion is wrong."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3249667/Germany-state-SIEGE-Merkel-cheered-opened-floodgates-migrants-gangs-men-roaming-streets-young-German-women-told-cover-mood-s-changing.html

I can't stop laughing when I see leftists suffer from their own political stance:

(1) How they cope with the burst of their ideological bubbles when faced with harsh reality. Yeah, one million people a year, of a completely different culture. Now you know (well, part of) Hong Kong people's sufferings, and why we call them "locusts".

(2) How they try to justify their contradictory beliefs. Like whether women should cover themselves up to avoid agitating people of a different culture - even if you are in your own country, Germany, and they are the one coming in and apparently needing your help. I wonder what feminists have to say...

Even though my laughs are short-lived as I know full well that once they are in Germany, they can go to UK soon due to this profoundly stupid idea of "free movement of people".

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Why compassion is the last thing this refugee crisis needs
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11851588/Why-compassion-is-the-last-thing-this-refugee-crisis-needs.html

To quote Davros: "Compassion is wrong." "...like a cancer... it will kill you in the end." Very true if you are the one running the country, making policies - you have to use your head, and not let your emotion overrun logic.

(Yes, I know the episodes are meant to convince people the opposite, but I think he is right.)

左膠當道 歐洲永無寧日

Lining up to welcome the migrants? Opening your homes for them? Europeans have been intoxicated in left-wing philosophies for decades, you wonder whether they will ever wake up or is this the end to the European civilization this time. I don't know who are worse, the European leftists or the Hong Kong left plastics: at least the Europeans do what they believe (those HK left plastics will never open their own homes for Chinese immigrants) but they are just too naive and "true-heart".

I have no time to translate (but these probably come from the West anyway)
but the key points are:

1) The drown little boy and his family are not really refugees. They were originally affected by the war but have since settled in Turkey, having a largely stable life. Then the father insists to take the risks, for economic reasons.

2) Many pictures far more horrific, of true refugees dying in the warzone, received little attention.

3) Those marching towards Europe (including the family of the little boy) are in fact the better-off ones; they have the money to pay the smugglers, they have
iphone and GPS to guide their paths. The true victims are still at those camps near Syria's border.

(This is not too dissimilar to HK: the left plastics keep saying that those Chinese immigrants are poor and need help, when they are in fact the better off one, being able to pay bribes etc to apply to come here. Many have property, business in China.)

4) Economic reasons are their true motive; if they are only fleeing away from the conflict, surely Greece is safe enough. (Why do they think they have a God-given right to pick the country they like anyway?) The fact that they are overwhemingly male, at working age, and physically strong enough to travel all the way and even charge towards riot police, is further proof of this. Many of them are also not Syrians or Iraqis.

Some other points:

1) Taking all the population and leaving the empty land to... IS? That's your strategy to the crisis? Surely you should finish the conflict (and there is no other way than waging a proper full-on war against IS and Assad), rebuild the country, and then re-settle the population back in their own country?

And in the meantime, temporary settlement of them in Europe is acceptable in my view, but not permanent citizenship.

2) Just like those Chinese migrants in North America feeling "patriotic" and supporting the communist Chinese regime (even though that is what they escaped from), and those "British" citizens who hate British values and join IS, we can already see what will happen to some of these "refugees" in Germany. Is Germany going to follow Britain's path, allowing the ethnic "minority" culture to take over their own? At least Britain is beginning to wake up...


http://forum14.hkgolden.com/view.aspx?type=BW&message=6029461
[盲目的德國]照片背後真相，溺死小男孩的是經濟非戰亂
發達啦

弋論 - 藍弋丰 產業媒體總監
照片背後真相　溺死小男孩的是經濟非戰亂
http://tw.on.cc/tw/bkn/cnt/commentary/20150906/bkntw-20150906000522262-0906_04411_001.html

一張小男孩不幸溺斃的悲劇照片，卻突然間引起了全世界的注意。

長期關心敘利亞戰亂與難民問題的人，這陣子大概啼笑皆非，因為幾年來無數戰亂血腥照片都引不起關注，一張小男孩不幸溺斃的悲劇照片，卻突然間引起了全世界的注意，連平常歧視外籍移工，動不動以菲傭、印傭、越勞、泰勞為貶稱，看到移工聚集台北車站都要側目以對的台灣，也突然間喚起了愛心，關注起國際難民問題來了。

但最諷刺的是，小男孩根本不是戰爭難民。

這一家庫德族家庭，正確的姓氏是沈紐（Shenu），但各大報導常稱之為庫迪（Kurdi），其實是「庫德仔」之意，因為是庫德人，所以被管叫庫德仔，不是真的姓「庫迪」，沈紐一家最初的確曾經是戰爭難民，原本住在敘利亞首都大馬士革，2011年起敘利亞內戰爆發後，沈紐一家離開大馬士革，先轉往敘利亞北部名城阿勒坡，阿勒坡隨後也捲入戰火，2012年起阿勒坡之役開打，戰事一直進行至今戰線仍犬牙交錯，沈紐一家再度逃往北部邊境庫德族大城科班尼。

科班尼後來在2014年發生可歌可泣的科班尼圍城戰役，當時伊斯蘭國對科班尼發起全面圍攻，包圍到只剩北面與土耳其接壤之處，科班尼一度危急，但庫德人誓死奮戰，其堅苦卓絕的精神，終於喚來美軍空中支援，加上伊拉克庫德援軍前來助戰，最終在浴血激戰四個月後擊退伊斯蘭國大軍，並讓他們受到上千人的損失，整個過程由於各國媒體從安全的土耳其境內遙遙相望，而得到充分報導。戰役過程中科班尼遭到嚴重破壞，許多地區都無法居住，許多庫德人英勇戰死，或是在市街戰中遭入侵的伊斯蘭國部隊闖入屋內槍殺。

但是這些跟沈紐一家沒有關係，因為2012年時，離圍城戰發生還早得很，他們就已經又從科班尼遷到土耳其定居，3年來都在安全的土耳其第一大城伊斯坦堡附近生活，完全不受戰亂侵擾，也就是，這次他們想偷渡到歐洲，根本不是受到戰火威脅而必須離鄉的戰爭難民，而是想改善生活的經濟移民。
   
照片上能告訴我們許多資訊。真正的戰爭難民，衣杉破爛、全身傷痕，連鞋子都沒有，真正在敘利亞內戰中受苦受難的兒童，其死亡照片才更叫人不忍卒睹：有的死於毒氣攻擊，還留著死前張大著嘴巴窒息而死的神貌；有的死於炸彈，身體支離破碎；有的遭流彈所傷，血流遍地。諷刺的是，這些更悲慘無比的照片自2012年起就由敘利亞前線的各國記者們持續公諸於世，卻反而不如這次的小男孩照引起全球注意。

比起真正的戰爭難民，小男孩衣服光鮮，而非褪色又破爛；鞋底都還有紋路，而不是磨平、磨破，或根本連鞋子都沒有；白白胖胖的樣子，以及看來健康快樂的生前家庭照，遠非其他挨餓受凍活在恐懼中敘利亞難民小孩的瘦弱、驚懼模樣。

事實上，能計畫乘船偷渡的，都不是真正在戰亂中家破人亡的家庭，而是較富有，家庭經濟較佳者，以沈紐一家來說，他們就受到小男孩加拿大姑姑的幫助，偷渡費用高達四千美元，是姑姑資助才能成行，一般人想像中家園被毀而一無所有的難民哪能湊出這筆錢來？

沈紐一家付了偷渡費後就沒錢買救生衣，小朋友不會游泳，媽媽更十分怕水一直反對此行，但父親阿布都拉卻還是堅持要把全家帶上靠不住的偷渡小船，去海上乘風破浪，最後果然因沉船又無救生衣，導致妻兒全數溺斃的悲劇，人死為大，當下沒有人敢批評是這個父親該負最大責任，反而是怪東怪西怪罪歐盟，但是也逐漸有許多歐美網友發表不同意見認為：在美國，光是不小心把小孩放在車中，就會被告翻天，阿布都拉卻把小孩帶上毫無安全性可言的船上要渡海，還沒有救生衣，妻子拼命反對，他還硬要成行，要是類似事件在美國發生，他恐怕會因嚴重未盡父母應盡責任而遭重判。

也有人批評難民問題是「歐美煽動阿拉伯之春」造成的，這種說法也站不住腳。歐洲海上「難民」問題最早從2007年就開始了，阿拉伯之春或所謂茉莉花革命，發生於2010年底到2012年，從突尼西亞開始，蔓延到埃及、利比亞、葉門、敘利亞、巴林；而歐洲海上「難民」主要來源國之中，只有敘利亞一個是與阿拉伯之春有關的國家，其他都無關。

以2014年而言，歐盟統計22萬名移民中，敘利亞以外，其次是厄立垂亞3.4萬人，厄立垂亞於1993年脫離衣索比亞獨立，在獨立前曾打過內戰與對衣索比亞的獨立戰爭，獨立後在1998到2000年又與衣索比亞開戰，但2000年停戰後，厄立垂亞就不算是戰亂國家了，只是仍是窮困國家，網路普及率世界最差。

再次是撒哈拉沙漠以南各國的2.6萬人、阿富汗1.27萬人、馬利近1萬人，甘比亞、奈及利亞、索馬利亞、巴勒斯坦、塞內加爾，其中雖有不少真正的戰亂國家，但如奈及利亞雖有博科聖地問題，大部分地區還算穩定，塞內加爾則不僅近來無戰亂，還大致上避過了侵襲西非的伊波拉疫情，卻仍然一年有近五千人輾轉前往歐洲，從塞內加爾一路沿著撒哈拉沙漠南沿，自尼日與利比亞穿越撒哈拉沙漠，再前往首都的黎波里搭船偷渡，目標是義大利南方島嶼。

這些冒險偷渡的塞內加爾人，甚至不是該國最窮的窮人，而是擁有手機、筆電，還要有餘錢，光是從利比亞邊界到的黎波里就要價600美元，這些人並非一無所有，其實往往還「擁有一切所需」，為何要冒險偷渡，與美墨邊境冒著死在沙漠中危險偷渡入美的偷渡客一樣，純然都是為了想在經濟上更發達，塞內加爾成人僅有11%有全職正職，12%經濟流都是由偷渡成功的移民匯錢回來，偷渡成功可以「光宗耀祖」，寄錢回來讓老家有衛星電視，蓋新房，為了成為「有用的子弟」，即使光是2015年上半年就有1840個各國經濟移民在自利比亞偷渡義大利的途中淹死，塞內加爾人仍趨之若鶩。
   
從「難民」渡歐後的行為，也可清楚看出他們偷渡的本質，如果是為了逃離戰禍，逃到希臘也夠遠了，但難民卻堅持一路穿越多國，過關斬將，還在匈牙利發動抗議，拒絕留在匈牙利。對「避難」的國家如此挑三揀四，真的是「難民」嗎？不，他們不是要避難，目標是要到最有錢且接納最多「難民」的德國去當德國人，或是到瑞典當瑞典人，又或是聚集到法國的加萊想穿過英法海底隧道到英國工作，他們是經濟移民，不是難民。

這也是歐盟各國先前都以防堵為主要政策的主因，然而，藉著一張照片，引起人道主義者們高呼要接收「難民」，德國因此大方宣布開放收容更多「難民」，博了個人道的名聲，其實本質也只是經濟掛帥：德國目前經濟體勞動力缺乏，社福體系也需要新血注入來「擴大稅基」，預期到2025年德國將短缺650萬勞動力，因此引進經濟移民對德國有絕大幫助。於是德國贏了面子又贏了裡子。

但德國此舉真的人道嗎？經濟移民的動力是經濟拉力，不是戰亂的推力，這些名為「難民」實為經濟移民者，他們會冒生命危險而死在海上，並不是要逃避戰禍，他們早已逃離戰禍，或甚至故鄉根本無戰禍，他們要去的是會容納他們工作的有錢國家，正是因為德國會收容他們的美好前景在眼前招手，才如飛蛾撲火般偷渡，還一路上造成其他國家的麻煩。

可以想見，德國宣布收容更多難民，下場是會吸引更多經濟移民出海賭命，也就會有更多人溺斃。通往地獄的道路往往是善意鋪成的。

陶傑論民族性; racial hatred vs class hatred

陶傑 左翼霸權 20150625

「男人以理性見長，女人富有感性」，更是「歧視女性」，因為西方的婦權份子指控，你暗示女人缺乏理性（她們不會說：這句話也同時在歧視男性，暗示男人冷淡無情）。幾十年來，西方的社會學術界，讓左翼搞得烏烟瘴氣，而且對於左翼，這也歧視、那也禁忌，言論自由在西方受威脅。

當然，你可以說：「民族性」即使是學術，缺乏數據，既不嚴謹，而且興盛於以人類學為經緯，對人種標籤而區分，形成後來的種族主義，而希特拉以這門知識，為屠殺猶太人的種族滅絕根據，所以過時而危險。

然而，我也可以說：左翼崇尚的馬克思主義，資本論也在一百多年前出籠。馬克思將資本家與無產階級二分而標籤，預測階級革命，卻忽視了技術中產階級的興起。馬克思理論也過時而不嚴謹。

馬克思衍生了列寧，列寧再傳門徒史達林和毛澤東，馬克思主義造成二十世紀的反人類大屠殺，波爾布特和喬森潘在巴黎大學談馬克思，回國後組成赤柬，屠殺了二百萬高棉人。

如果「民族性」的理論造成「種族仇恨」，馬克思理論也造成階級仇恨。


(I always wonder what would happen if I translate Tsao Chip's controversial articles... Again, the "translation" has my additional thoughts in it and does not completely represent his opinion.)


"Men are better at rational thinking while women are more emotional," is a classic "discrimination against women": feminists accuse that it suggests women lack the ability to reason rationally (but they will not say that the same sentence is a discrimination against men, that men are cold and emotionless). For decades, leftists in the West made the "social science" academia into a mess. Freedom of expression is under threat by the leftists' constant accusations of discrimination and the taboo of racism.

One could say that the study of "ethnic characteristics" is no longer considered an academically rigorous branch of anthropology. Moreover its "labelling" of different ethnicities helped justify racism, which was then further used by Hitler to justify the Holocaust. It is therefore not only an outdated but a dangerous idea. However, one can also say that Marxism and its labelling of capitalists and the proletariat is also obsolete and not rigorous (it fails to explain the existence of middle-class, knowledge-based economy, etc). It is arguably even more dangerous: Marx inspired Lenin, who further inspired Mao Zedong and Pol Pot, who provoked class hatred among people to kill millions of people in the Far East (a fact that some Western leftists are still unwilling to accept.)

If racial hatred can be attributed to the study of "ethnic characteristics", then Marxism should be blamed for class hatred and the millions of lives it took. Which brings us to my main point - leftists happily accuse people of racial hatred every day, while spending all their lives trying to spread and provoke class hatred.

「掐斷」直播

阿仙奴巡遊率球迷瘋罵死敵 官方緊急掐斷直播

http://sports.sina.com.cn/g/pl/2015-06-01/10207624278.shtml

共匪中文 暴力語言類：有「中斷」不說，要說「掐斷」，直播是雞還是鴨，有條頸給你「掐斷」？

蘇賡哲：不易轉的大彎

蘇賡哲：不易轉的大彎
http://chezmoibooks.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/blog-post_15.html

他(陶君行)接受美國《紐約時報》訪問時說：他對學聯決定退出十分失望，「六四是我們的集體回憶，是香港民主覺醒的一刻」，年輕人主張香港獨立，是「跌入共產黨的陷阱」，「共產黨就有藉口不給香港民主，因為你現在為獨立而抗爭；不是為民主抗爭」。

陶君行的思路剛好和本土派相反，他還在希望共產黨給香港民主。本土派就是清清楚楚知道，無論你為獨立而抗爭也好，為民主而抗爭也好，為任何東西抗爭都好，共產黨都不會給你民主。這個「清清楚楚知道」，才是香港人真正的民主覺醒。而以前的民主覺醒，全是不切實際的幻夢，全是跌入中共的陷阱。

以前香港泛民和共產黨高度合作，熱烈歡迎香港回歸、堅決主張一個中國、堅決反對台獨、藏獨、疆獨，甚至將五星旗插上釣魚台，但他們得到甚麼民主？甚麼都得不到。本土思潮就是看到泛民無路可走才壯大的，陶君行似乎一無所覺。

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(This is not exactly a translation but rather inspired by the above)

The old "pro-democracy" camp in Hong Kong (or "leftplastics") believe that the younger generation, who fight for independence, "has fallen into the trap of the Chinese communist party (CCP)", and that "it gives excuse for the CCP to not grant us democracy because you are fighting for independence and not democracy."

This reveals the fundamental problem with these pseudo-leftists and why they never achieved anything: they believe the people should not do anything rebellious; just look pitiful and hope that the CCP one day will be in a charitable mood to give you democracy. The rising "localists" see that it is clearly never going to happen; whether you want democracy, or independence, or anything else, you have to fight for it. This is the true "awakening" - all earlier claims of awakening, e.g. after the June 4 massacre, are merely deeper levels of dreams and in fact, those are the real traps - to instil people with nationalist thoughts so they cannot emotionally separate themselves from China.

The leftplastics have always been highly cooperative with the CCP: they campaigned for the "reunification" of HK to China, insist on the "one country" principle and are against Taiwan, Tibet etc separating from China. All these despite knowing full well the atrocious, brutal nature of the CCP. These leftplastics have dominated the stage for the last 30 years (and are still portrayed by the western media as the only force against Beijing), but they have reached the end of their path: whether they like it or not, the rise of localism is inevitable.

HKU pro-VC: “If you don't want to go to China, don't come to HKU”

Pro-Vice-Chancellor of the University of Hong Kong, Prof. Ian Holliday, has said that by 2022 all students of HKU must participate in compulsory exchange schemes with China - a country where its people don't dare to eat the food they themselves produce, and a country where all its people are trying to get out from. He is quoted as saying:  “If you don't want to go to China, don't come to HKU.”

This is part of the grand scheme of Chinese colonisation, in this case the brainwashing of university students. A facebook user likened this to South Korean universities forcing its students into exchange schemes with North Korea. That this comes from a Westerner causes particular outrage, although it really should not be surprising, as they have no connection with either Hong Kong or China and hence couldn't care less about throwing HK people into that dictatorial regime.

Source:
https://www.facebook.com/undergradnews/photos/a.394835403863522.107748.393883453958717/1188704714476583/?type=1&fref=nf

BBC map of Hong Kong

(from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-32282029)

Yeah, that's what the BBC think Hong Kong looks like...

感謝義士!

(1) 感謝義士!
http://localpresshk.com/2015/04/%E7%BE%A9%E5%A3%AB%E5%89%8D%E6%89%91%E5%BE%8C%E7%B9%BC-%E5%B0%91%E5%B9%B4%E9%A6%99%E6%B8%AF%E5%87%BA%E4%B8%96/

請注意，我在這裡說的「年輕人」，不包括那些經常在鏡頭前出現的學生政棍，他們是不淌這渾水的。因為落場搞，形象就沾污了，不是反對體制了，是種族歧視了，是不包容了。於是最後這重要的、關乎日常生活的抗爭，還是要由蒙面的、無名的、無助的另一群年輕人去做。然後事情鬧大了，泛民主派的譴責、割席、批評，全是便宜輕省的漂亮話，他們也不覺得羞恥。

...

但是香港的本土人會不斷去找方法，不顧身世，不顧形象，都要嘗試令事情有轉機；而泛民和社運仕途主義者則只會千方百計去找方法證明，在中國面前，一 切抗爭最終都是無效，最終要等中國自己變，施捨香港民主，施捨香港人有得正常生活，而這過程中，香港人不要做「過激」的事情，否則惹大老爺不高興，就又要受虐了——這就是泛民主派的底牌。

從吳志森到梁文道，從有議席到無議席的，從老的到後生的，泛民講的終歸就是這一套。但他們又要搶佔「抗命不認命」的光環，擺出對抗「政權」的矯情模樣。

老大的中國，令香港也變得老大。霸著位置的，都在散播失敗主義。一條肉砧板上的魚，尚且識得本能反應扭兩扭。香港的絕大多數人，卻已經放棄了，但最無恥那一班，明明是放棄了又要裝模作樣有個抗爭模樣，然後批評那條魚扭來扭去，令廚子盛怒。

(2) 深居民：港人北上也應設限
http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/news/art/20150414/19111861

本人一向舉腳贊成，好人好姐，無事就不要去鬼國...

港大退聯之「共產黨最高興」論

說得好。

Lunyeah - 港大退聯之「共產黨最高興」論
https://thestandnews.com/politics/%E6%B8%AF%E5%A4%A7%E9%80%80%E8%81%AF%E4%B9%8B-%E5%85%B1%E7%94%A2%E9%BB%A8%E6%9C%80%E9%AB%98%E8%88%88-%E8%AB%96/

由幾時開始，我地做人做事的準則係要睇「共產黨高唔高興」？大家要含淚投票俾泛民！否則「共產黨最高興」；大家唔好退出學聯！否則「共產黨最高興」；大家唔好批評左膠！否則「共產黨最高興」；大家唔好衝擊升國旗！否則「共產黨最高興」......

咁點解當日又要勸大家從佔領區撤離？唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？點解民主黨要入中聯辦密室談判？唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？點解要反對本土派的「光復行動」？ 唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？點解左膠孔令瑜當日要向毛范譚三個溫和本土派開記招下戰書？唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？點解左膠要支持中港融合？唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？點解天主教正義和平委員會要「為中港融合祈禱」？唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？點解孔令瑜要盲撐縱火犯施君龍？唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？點解左膠要圍插陶傑？唔怕「共產黨最高興」咩？

港大通過退聯 左膠齊賴內地生 屈本土派是共諜

林兆彬 (前學聯左膠)
http://www.facebook.com/orochi.ben.lam/posts/10153030598025199

有二千五百幾人投票支持港大退出學聯，當中包括兩班人：認為學聯太激的藍絲/內地生 + 認為學聯唔夠「勇武」唔夠「本土」既人。
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少左近一萬五千人的力量，邊個最開心我唔知，但香港政府、教育局一定在偷笑。
BTW港大的國殤之柱，太古橋上的六四標語，或許在不久的將來會被推倒吧？


蕭若元 最新蕭析：我對退聯公投的失算
http://newsdb.memehk.com/posts/%E6%88%91%E5%B0%8D%E9%80%80%E8%81%AF%E5%85%AC%E6%8A%95%E7%9A%84%E5%A4%B1%E7%AE%97#sthash.cDjGYeNm.dpuf

退聯竟然成功，我當然非常震驚... 我未有察覺支持退聯的其實是三種票的聯合。我一直只看著那些想拆台的人的票有多少，如果有四百多人聯署，我認為實際最多只有六、七百人，是非大敗不可。但實際上不是，它是有三種票。除了想拆台的人，還有港大學生裏的藍絲帶，大概佔學生的1成多。還有中央的組織票。最近大公、文匯天天吹雞，我相信共產黨已用盡他所有的票，約近一千票。

用偽裝的藉口，以中立的退聯，將3方面的票加了起來，就是總共的票，再加上不少港大學生對政治冷感，最後得出這個結果。如果冷靜一點是應該計算得到的。我竟然完全盲目，看不到這個現實，看不到中共的組織票，和對運動感到憤努的真心藍絲帶的票，我只能說自己是完全盲目，是可笑的。


就當 NDS 真的全都支持退聯好了，要不是你們左膠支持中共殖民香港，又那來這許多 NDS 呢；早知今日，何必當初？況且你現在要歧視大陸人嗎？根據「大陸也有好人論」，大陸也有很多人支持民主甚麼的，你純粹因為他們的族群身份便推測他們都是共匪，是歧視！難道你們想提出減少大陸生來港或禁止他們投票？那好得很，歡迎加入法西斯大家庭...

至於共產黨是否最開心我不知道，只是佩服你們對共產黨心情起伏瞭如指掌，不是「共產黨最開心」就是「不要激怒共產黨」。事情是對就做，是錯就不應做，是對是錯和共匪心情沒有關係。整天揣摩上意，和土共有何分別？

我倒是相當高興的，雖不至於熱烈支持，也是樂觀其成。學聯在雨傘革命的錯誤都可原諒；更大的問題是他們和殖民主派如民陣等千絲萬縷的關係。雨傘革命中途，他們還有空去爭取大陸人來港「家庭團聚」呢。大中華膠不除，香港必冇得救。

陶傑：屠殺爭議

但是，當看熱鬧的中國人也認為法國漫畫家該殺，西方霸權踐踏了伊斯蘭人民的尊嚴；你不妨反問這位中國人：在「查理周報」屠殺案之後三天，新疆一個縣城，又發生維吾爾族暴力襲警事件，維族人民也開始展開暴力，在北京玩人肉汽車炸彈，炸死中國平民了。但中國政府卻在新疆禁男人蓄鬍子，禁女人戴面紗，此等「漢文霸權」措施，必會激起更大的暴力反抗，那麼中國人應不應該停止刺激維吾爾族人民，而自我反省呢？

蘋果日報 黃金冒險號 2015-01-13

部分香港年青人仇視內地 有必要去殖民化？

饒戈平：部分香港年青人仇視內地 　 有必要去殖民化

早排李慧琼上電視，也是開口閉口殖民地教育這個那個的。年青人抗拒、仇視大陸，不是因為殖民地教育，而是因為你共產黨殺人放火，無惡不作，抗拒和仇視是年青人有良知的正常表現。況且殖民地教育你們不也是大鑼大鼓地搞麼，不過是中共殖民教育...